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On experiences of a physical or spiritual nature

On experiences of a physical or spiritual nature:
“...Anything we experience as being in us, and which we see can also exist in wholly inanimate bodies, must be attributed only to our body. On the other hand, anything in us which we cannot conceive in any way as capable of belonging to a body must be attributed to our soul. Thus, because we have no conception of the body as thinking in any way at all, we have reason to believe that every kind of thought present in us belongs to the soul. And since we do not doubt that there are inanimate bodies which can move in as many different ways as our bodies, if not more, and which have as much heat or more […], we must believe that all the heat and all the movements present in us, in so far as they do not depend on thought, belong solely to the body” (AT XI:329, CSM I:329).

Regarding the necessity of the recognition that the physical body and the phenomena/noumena that is the mind co-exists with the spiritual essence (the soul):
"We need to recognize that the soul is really joined to the whole body, and that we cannot properly say that it exists in any one part of the body to the exclusion of the others. For the body is a unity which is in a sense indivisible because of the arrangement of its organs, these being so related to one another that the removal of any one of them renders the whole body defective. And the soul is of such a nature that it has no relation to extension, or to the dimensions or other properties of the matter of which the body is composed: it is related solely to the whole assemblage of the body's organs. This is obvious from our inability to conceive of a half or a third of a soul, or of the extension which a soul occupies. Nor does the soul become any smaller if we cut off some part of the body, but it becomes completely separate from the body when we break up the assemblage of the body's organs” (AT XI:351, CSM I:339)

Despite the immateriality of the soul, because the mind creates it, it exists.

Descartes' error here is that by the time he wrote The Passions of the Soul, Europe had rediscovered much of the Latin and Greek philosophers' theories regarding the soul.

As well, priestly kingdoms run by Jews influenced by the Essene may have been conquered by Roman armies so as to ensure Pax Romana.

Indeed, a Greek philosopher named Plato first wrote of the soul, and it was incorporated in Christian ideology due to the Greco-Roman influence on Jewish thought , first with Alexander the Great's conquest of Asia Minor and the Middle East, and later with the establishment of Pax Romana, the schism into West and East Roman Empires with Rome and Constantinople circa 325 CE.

Thus, by the time the Dark Ages fell over Europe circa 500 CE, the widespread chaos due to plagues and bands both of marauding invaders and local hooligans, the dynamics of civilization and religion almost came to a standstill.

Yet the pagan idea of the soul was later incorporated after Peter's later mission to introduce the Christ to Gentiles (non-Jews) due to the violent martyrdom (death by stoning) suffered by early Christians by Jews.

So, the soul of which Descartes speaks was inculcated from birth by the Catholic Church, after 500 years of earnest monks illuminating the Bible...

2 comments:

Sageb1 said...

Meanwhile, in the hinterlands like France, Portugal, Spain, England, Germany and Central Europe, the Vulgate version of the Bible was being passed first as in the oral tradition and later, translated by monks in French, Portuguese, Spanish, English, German and Central European monasteries.

After the Dark Ages befell Europe, within 300 years Islam had rised up and conquered the Middle East under Sasanid Arabs, formed trade alliances with wandering Turk mercenaries, and blossomed long after the Roman Empire died out in 476 CE.

It is the Crusades which began in 1071 CE that predates the Renaissance, and eventually led to Descartes' writing the Passions of the Soul in 1649 CE.

Three centuries of conflict and co-operation with the Muslims later (until the 13th Century), Moorish Spain was held by Jews, Muslims and Christian in Spain.

So when the Muslims fell under the sway of the Almohades, Jews were expelled from Spain.

Sageb1 said...

Regarding my statement that Plato first wrote of the soul, he first wrote extensively about the soul. The early Christians elders who were born pagans absorbed much from Greco-Roman education, especially from the new rival philosophy called "Science", which was considered to be a rival to the growing power and influence of early Christians.

Hence the pogroms by Roman Emperors and barbarian usurpers, right into the Dark Ages in the 5th Century CE.

So by the time the Crusades awoke plague weary Europeans in the 11th Century, science flourished and dropped a bit of its philosophical elements, especially in Moorish Spain.

But by the 10th Century, the Moors came under the sway of an anti-Jewish leader who persecuted the Jews because they still had much of the power and influence (and financial backing) through carefully negotiated tribute paid to the Moorish king.