Armenia today consists of the Persian-Armenian "faction". Thanks to the collapse of the Soviet Union, they fought the Azerbaijani over a region of Azerbaijan that contains a lot of Armenians, who were being targeted by Azerbaijani extremists, and "liberated" it for the good of Armenians there. This conflict was due to both sides declaring themselves republics in a frenzy of nationalism that spread throughout the Soviet Union in the late 1980s.
It makes me wonder if the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh thought out what would happen in their bid for independence in 1988. The resulting war lasted for 4 years and led to massive killings on both sides - which leads me to suspect both sides, being suppressed by Moscow during the Soviet years, got a little giddy with the prospect of freedom and decided on scorched earth policies against each other due to each side as their fervent nationalism led to war.
Perhaps Armenians and Azeri were in conflict because the Armenians have been there since 1500 BCE and the Azeri only since 1064 CE when the Seljuk Turks moved into Asia Minor. From the Armenians' point of view, perhaps they were just keeping the invaders at bay as they have been doing since 1064 CE.
Today the Armenians outside of Armenia proper are fighting to preserve their traditions, but on both sides there were a lot of raids for booty before and after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. Obviously, the Azeri versus Armenia enmity could not be ended overnight because neither side is willing to forgive and forget without UN intervention.
However, it is the Persian-Armenians who form the majority in Armenia. Almost everywhere else, it is the Greco-Armenians who originally lived in Cilicia since the days of the Parthian Empire circa 300s BCE. Cilicia was later resettled by Greco-Armenians around 1090 CE due to the Seljuk Turk incursion into Anatolia. It is they who form the majority of the Armenian diaspora outside of Asia Minor. Half of Cilicia was conquered by the Seljuks between 1064 and 1090s.
A few members of the Armenian diaspora are so well-learned that in order to convey the full meaning of deeply emotional and/or intellectual concepts, they will switch from Armenian to French, Greek or Persian and back again.
Additionally, the Armenians never formed an empire of their own, due to the rugged mountainous region in which they dwelled in what became eastern Turkey today. It was easier to make alliances with whoever subjugated them in the past, be it Sassanid Persians making incursions into Byzantium and Parthian Greeks ruling under satrapies prior to 190 BCE, along with Turks since 1000 CE.
Nationalism is a new phenomenon for both Azeri and Armenians, and is not a peaceful struggle for people who originally based their allegiance on the clan / tribal system.
There may be struggles in the future, thanks to the rise of jihadi cultism and the horrible violence it can cause in the world today. If it takes hold in Azeribaijan, then it could lead to a renewal of conflict between both nations.
At the moment, though, the uneasy peace in the region has left the West to consider more pressing matters elsewhere.
Nagorno-Karabakh War:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagorno-Karabakh_War
DID THE TURKS INVADE AND CONFISCATE ARMENIAN LANDS:
http://www.ermenisorunu.gen.tr/english/answers/invade.html
Armenians: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenians
Cilicia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cilicia
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20130702
XInjiang: Uyghur People Then and Now
The legacy of the Ming is found in the 100-word Eulogy praising Muhammad.
It is precisely because PRC is atheistic to the point of being antagonistic to Christianity, Judaism and Islam when their adherents operate outside the control of the CCP that leads to Beijing using Hui people to fight with Uyghur people, mainly by misleading both sides.
This has a lot to do with the Soviet Union's support of Uighur militants when they tried to interfere with Communist China after Mao split with Moscow over Chinese Communist policies during the Cold War era.
When the First East Turkestan Republic tried to gain Uighur independence in 1933, Ma's forces massacred many Uighurs, and overran the British embassy.
As well, corrupt Chinese warlords such as Jin Shuren frustrated the Uighurs by favoring the Chinese people in Xinjiang over Uighurs. In response to threats by the Uighurs, the White Russian garrison under Shuren's command revolted due to their treatment when faced with the Uighur rebel forces.
In response, Shuren fled to Moscow, leaving Sheng Shicai to rise to power in Xinjiang.
Prior to the First East Turkestan Republic, Xinjiang was a defacto Soviet Satellite state run by the Urumqi consul of the Soviet Union. In effect, the Soviet embassy ran the state with warlord Shicai in charge, provided that he consult with them on internal matters.
Four years after the East Turkestan Republic fell (1937) Shicai purged Xinjiang of forces hostile to Soviet interests to coincide with Stalin's Great Purge. This was referred as the Xinjiang War.
During the latter part of the 1930s, Xinjiang was nominally part of China but was actually part of the Soviet.
By Shicai designating Turkic Muslims into ethnicities, it may have been a Soviet attempt to create disunion among the Turkic people of Xinjiang. The use of the term "Uighur people" was objected to by Turkic Uighur leaders Mohammad Amin Burgha and Masud Sabri, with Burgha concerned about Turkic ethnicities designation and Sabri concerned about Shicai designating Turkic people as "Uighur people".
1942 marked the beginning of the end of warlord Sicai's rule in Xinjiang when he purged Urumqi of the Soviets and even had Mao's brother Mao Zemin killed. Now currying favor with the KMT (Nationalists), he may have felt frustrated by the slow response of KMT troop movement into XInjiang and erred by changing sides again in support of the Soviets when their war efforts turned the tide against the Germans in 1944.
By this time, Stalin refused to support Sicai's request for their aid and sent Sicai's request to the KMT, which led to him losing governship of Xinjiang shortly afterwards.
Both Burgha and Sabri are pan-Turkic rebels wishing to establish Western Chinese provinces such as Xinjiang as part of the East Turkestan Republic. Today PRC would rather Western China be a part of China, despite the practice of unpaid forced labor still being practised there.
Even though Western China is a vital part of China today, it is at the expense of the Turkic people there, most of whom are poor due to Beijing favoring the Han people over non-Han.
Unpaid forced labor is a means used by corrupt CCP officials to profit from "free labor", rather than providing promised monthly wages to girls seduced by the false employment scheme.
In the aftermath of a false employment scheme, PRC continually oppressed Turkic parents whose girls had "defected" back to Urumqi by forced unpaid labor in an irrigation project, once again showing that CCP officials there are illegally profiting from "free labor."
Reference:
100-word Eulogy praising Muhammad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hundred-word_Eulogy
Islam in China: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_China
Ma Shaowu: Official in Xinjiang: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma_Shaowu#Official_in_Xinjiang
during Ma's rule in Xinjiang, he gathered Hui conscripts to suppress Uighur rebels who had been trained by the Soviet Union to subvert Communist rule in Western China.
Jin Shuren: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jin_Shuren
Sheng Shicai: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheng_Shicai
Xinjiang War: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_War
Mumammad Amin Bughra: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Amin_Bughra
Masud Sabri: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masud_Sabri
Unpaid Forced Labor Separates Girls From Homes in Western China: http://www.rfa.org/english/uyghur/uyghur_labor-20070711.html
It is precisely because PRC is atheistic to the point of being antagonistic to Christianity, Judaism and Islam when their adherents operate outside the control of the CCP that leads to Beijing using Hui people to fight with Uyghur people, mainly by misleading both sides.
This has a lot to do with the Soviet Union's support of Uighur militants when they tried to interfere with Communist China after Mao split with Moscow over Chinese Communist policies during the Cold War era.
When the First East Turkestan Republic tried to gain Uighur independence in 1933, Ma's forces massacred many Uighurs, and overran the British embassy.
As well, corrupt Chinese warlords such as Jin Shuren frustrated the Uighurs by favoring the Chinese people in Xinjiang over Uighurs. In response to threats by the Uighurs, the White Russian garrison under Shuren's command revolted due to their treatment when faced with the Uighur rebel forces.
In response, Shuren fled to Moscow, leaving Sheng Shicai to rise to power in Xinjiang.
Prior to the First East Turkestan Republic, Xinjiang was a defacto Soviet Satellite state run by the Urumqi consul of the Soviet Union. In effect, the Soviet embassy ran the state with warlord Shicai in charge, provided that he consult with them on internal matters.
Four years after the East Turkestan Republic fell (1937) Shicai purged Xinjiang of forces hostile to Soviet interests to coincide with Stalin's Great Purge. This was referred as the Xinjiang War.
During the latter part of the 1930s, Xinjiang was nominally part of China but was actually part of the Soviet.
By Shicai designating Turkic Muslims into ethnicities, it may have been a Soviet attempt to create disunion among the Turkic people of Xinjiang. The use of the term "Uighur people" was objected to by Turkic Uighur leaders Mohammad Amin Burgha and Masud Sabri, with Burgha concerned about Turkic ethnicities designation and Sabri concerned about Shicai designating Turkic people as "Uighur people".
1942 marked the beginning of the end of warlord Sicai's rule in Xinjiang when he purged Urumqi of the Soviets and even had Mao's brother Mao Zemin killed. Now currying favor with the KMT (Nationalists), he may have felt frustrated by the slow response of KMT troop movement into XInjiang and erred by changing sides again in support of the Soviets when their war efforts turned the tide against the Germans in 1944.
By this time, Stalin refused to support Sicai's request for their aid and sent Sicai's request to the KMT, which led to him losing governship of Xinjiang shortly afterwards.
Both Burgha and Sabri are pan-Turkic rebels wishing to establish Western Chinese provinces such as Xinjiang as part of the East Turkestan Republic. Today PRC would rather Western China be a part of China, despite the practice of unpaid forced labor still being practised there.
Even though Western China is a vital part of China today, it is at the expense of the Turkic people there, most of whom are poor due to Beijing favoring the Han people over non-Han.
Unpaid forced labor is a means used by corrupt CCP officials to profit from "free labor", rather than providing promised monthly wages to girls seduced by the false employment scheme.
In the aftermath of a false employment scheme, PRC continually oppressed Turkic parents whose girls had "defected" back to Urumqi by forced unpaid labor in an irrigation project, once again showing that CCP officials there are illegally profiting from "free labor."
Reference:
100-word Eulogy praising Muhammad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hundred-word_Eulogy
Islam in China: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_China
Ma Shaowu: Official in Xinjiang: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma_Shaowu#Official_in_Xinjiang
during Ma's rule in Xinjiang, he gathered Hui conscripts to suppress Uighur rebels who had been trained by the Soviet Union to subvert Communist rule in Western China.
Jin Shuren: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jin_Shuren
Sheng Shicai: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheng_Shicai
Xinjiang War: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_War
Mumammad Amin Bughra: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Amin_Bughra
Masud Sabri: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masud_Sabri
Unpaid Forced Labor Separates Girls From Homes in Western China: http://www.rfa.org/english/uyghur/uyghur_labor-20070711.html
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