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20131220

When Pain Killers Don't Cut It

Erowid user confesses to possible addiction to opioids for kidney stone pain. Commentary to follow quote.


http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=22485

I came online tonight searching for answers to my questions about the myriad of drugs I am currently taking, and thought my experience so far with these drugs could prove useful to someone in my position in the future. I have had been passing kidney stones for the past week - the most painful experience of my life - and in between my many trips to the ER, I have been given oxycodone, toradol and dilaudid to control the pain.

I am extremely afraid of developing an addiction to these drugs, as I have an 'addictive personality' and have had drug habit problems in the past. It's been a difficult situation because the onset of kidney pain sends me into such a fright that I pop the maximum amount of pills that I am supposed to take at once. I am afraid that slight pain I begin to feel will worsen until I am in the state I was in the first day I had the stones - a pain that I would not wish upon my worst enemy. The pain had me reduced to a blabbering, crying mess. When I got to the ER that day I had no control over my words and actions, and I was screaming and moaning for painkillers. When I finally got my shot of toradol and dilaudid I was in heaven...and I tried so hard to convince myself it was just from the pain relief, not from the drugs themselves.

I finally left the hospital that day and continued to have bouts of pain that would sometimes be relieved by the prescriptions, and sometimes not. By the fourth day, I noticed the meds were having no effect whatsoever. It scared me that I already was having such a tolerance to the meds, especially because of how strong I was told dilaudid was. Was it the strength of pain or my tolerance to the meds? I don't really know. I just got home from my third visit to the hospital in the past week, except I had to stay overnight with a morphine drip to control the pain. I was later switched to oral medication - oxycodone - and I was able to handle the pain that way so I got sent home with 30 more pills.

There is no real point to my story except that I question my actions...at the slightest possibility of my beginning to feel twinges of back/abdomen pain associated with kidney stones, I take the oxycodone, toradol, and/or dilaudid. I really don't know if it's more because I am afraid of having pain like I did, or because I am developing an addiction to these pain killers. I must admit that the pain killers make it so much easier to sleep, and as soon as I feel the 'coming down' effects like increased sensitivity (crying at the drop of a hat) and increased annoyedness (especially at loud noise), I feel compelled to take the drugs. At the same time, however, these drugs do not provide all bliss to me either; I experience intense itchiness, mild nausea, and an overwhelming grogginess that brings about a depressed mental state. I personally feel much better having written this, because I think I am being a lot more honest with myself, and have realized that I have caught myself giving in to an addiction...




Commentary: Acute pain caused by kidney stones is never remedied by opioids, except when the user is asleep. Had the Emergency doctor been on the ball, had she co-prescribed hydroxyzine or suggested an OTC antihistamine such as Benedryl (diphenhydramine), Chlor-tripolon (chlorpheniramine) or even cetirizine (which has not sedative properties but being a metabolite of hydroxyzine) does moderate opioid potentition, the user would have experienced pain relief earlier once the sedation of the antihistamine kicked in. This also implies less opioids can be taken to relieve the pain.

As shown in the above case, the person reporting his experience with opioids is under great pain, and under these circumstances, tries to dull the pain. Adding an antihistamine to lessen his dose of opioids would complicate matters i.e. scheduling when to take it and how to tell the difference between an antihistamine and an opioid. So the combination would only be useful in a hospital setting where dose scheduling could be better controlled.

This is why antihistamines, especially first-generation such as Benedryl, Chlor-tripolon and hydroxyzine, are usually not given to people with their pain medication due to the risk of overdose.

This is also why tobacco products are addictive, because of the synergy between the nicotine (an acetylcholine agonist) and harmaline, a central nervous system (CNS) stimulant and a reversible inhibitor of MAO-A (RIMA), contained in cigarettes and other tobacco products.

A RIMA prevents the breakdown of neurotransmitters, especially acetylcholine, adrenalin, dopamine, GABA, noradrenalin, serotonin, and tyrosine.

As a RIMA, harmaline also prevents histamine (a monamine) from breaking down. In high doses, with susceptible people it might cause hallucinations because of this action by preventing the breakdown of endogenous dimethyltryptamine. This is not true in all cases.

Nicotine itself too is a CNS stimulant, though its metabolite cotinine is both an anti-psychotic and nootropic.

Original post: June 10, 2010 at 7:40 PM

20090320

Cheap Drunk Episode

Anyway, a recap of this week's events as of Thursday 19 March 2009:

My introspective drunkenness after one 500 mL glass of ale was a buzz, alright.

During and after ONE GLASS of ale, I recall the following:

Announcing to my friend that I was now drunk after 15 minutes, pointing to the 60 percent of the brew still left in the glass.

And then 4 hours later, at his place, getting the almost worst migraine due to tyramines in the raspberry wheat ale I drank 4 hours previously.

This happened about 72 hours ago, and yesterday I am sure the rather lousy sleep I had the night before was all part of the sobering up period.

But then this is me: one drink is a rocky road.

BTW the grill salmon dinner at Central City Pub is excellent!!

20071211

The Relief of Insomnia & The Chemical Joy of Rhodiola and Reactine

IMHO rhodiola and cetirizine beats diphenhydramine.

Rhodiola tweaks my opioid receptors, which are hedonism's tie in with the brain.

Cetirizine basically affects histamine receptors, but also cholinergic receptors, and consequently, the usual serotonin-dopamine-noradrenalin-adrenalin circus. it helps to have a benzhydryl head and a piperazine tail. The benzhydryl head tweaks the dopamine receptor, resulting in sleep. The piperazine tail tweaks serotonin receptors such that hypocretin is suppressed for at least 6 hours. Then it rises again, resulting in a fitful rest and no first-generation anti-histamine hangover.

However, wise users of anti-histamines should stop taking Reactine after using it for a full week to prevent the body from building tolerance.

Please note that vigorous morning exercise, not drinking caffeinated beverages and not arising from bed after retiring for the night is more effective in relieving insomnia.